June 28th: PM2023 056 - Liko VS Chili! Beyond the Battle (2024)

Jangobadass

She's back...
  • Thursday at 6:51 PM
  • #21

Poor Larry, left out in the cold...

i2i

Big Bad Wolf
  • Thursday at 6:57 PM
  • #22

Blue Saturday said:

Ah, thought this was confirmed.

Speculation:

Nah, unless they're going for some kind "shocking twist" with Anne learning about Terapagos and then coincidentally being used for Aoki, I really don't think they'll do this at all. I just think she would have gotten more face value and hype if that was the plan, unless of course, it's meant to be a huge twist or build up to anything. I honestly would just rather the gym leaders/E4 be solely used for the Horizons trio.

Yeah, this is it. Gym Leader that doubles as Elite Four. It's obvious asf because we played the games but it's going to be a "shock" that he plays both roles. It plays into his "overworked businessman" aesthetic.

Wouldn't adding Ann to the mix actually even things out.

Articfoxgamez

I Exist.
  • Thursday at 6:58 PM
  • #23

1rkhachatryan said:

Welp, the only move Liko can use here to do super effective damage here is Clodsire is mud slap which isn't happening lol. She'll probably get something like petal blizzard since it was foreshadowed a bit.

Terastal aside, quaxly also has no super effective moves against its opponent so its not a unique issue.

Tinkaton

Tinkaton No 1 Gen 9 Pokemon
  • Thursday at 7:02 PM
  • #24

Ignition said:

Between this and Larry officially being announced for Masters last night, most of my social media feed is just fan art of him (and Kabu/the rest of the E4). Not nearly as crazy about the character as most people seem to be but I’m still glad he’s getting a lot of attention. Can’t wait to see how they animate their aces fighting especially Baxcailbur.

And Tinkaton too, Next Friday will be absolute insane, also excited for Baxcal too,

Ignition

We are so back Zygardebros
  • Thursday at 7:14 PM
  • #25

Kazuniya

read/watch dungeon meshi
  • Thursday at 7:47 PM
  • #26

My biggest complaint about all of this is that they're STILL focusing on their starters.

I desperately hope their 2nd mons get to do some battles.

Trey pokes

Well-Known Member
  • Thursday at 8:19 PM
  • #27

Ignition said:

Between this and Larry officially being announced for Masters last night, most of my social media feed is just fan art of him (and Kabu/the rest of the E4). Not nearly as crazy about the character as most people seem to be but I’m still glad he’s getting a lot of attention. Can’t wait to see how they animate their aces fighting especially Baxcailbur.

Definitely has gotten a lot of attention recently.

Kawaii Emolga

The cutest EVER!!!!
  • Thursday at 8:20 PM
  • #28

Wonder if Liko will get a win here, maybe unlikely, since it's a Elite Four member, but she's paired with a Gym leader so, who knows?
Also, PLEASE Floragato, learn a new move! And a move that isn't just "make a bigger quantity of leaves appear" again.

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wellwellwells

Well-Known Member
  • Thursday at 8:54 PM
  • #29

1rkhachatryan said:

Welp, the only move Liko can use here to do super effective damage here is Clodsire is mud slap which isn't happening lol. She'll probably get something like petal blizzard since it was foreshadowed a bit.

Not really because once Clodsire terrastralize if will become weak to grass.

Blue Saturday

Violet Prince❤️
  • Thursday at 9:12 PM
  • #30

Blue Saturday said:

Interesting, the part of about "realizing how fun battling is for real" so could this imply some development in Liko potentially liking Pokemon battling vs. just doing it out of fulfilling her errand/responsibility to Terapagos?

NVM.

I think the summary probably refers to her lesson from Kaede, where she learned she didn't need a practice match to "Terastal" before her real Terastal examination. In the end, she puts her heart into it and Terastallizes Nyarote after encouraging it to focus on fighting together and having fun. Hence the portion about Terastallizing against Chili. Declaring herself a battle-rat would have been an interesting status quo change, though.

That makes sense. The kids will reflect on the lessons they learned through these battles, especially since Clavel inquired about them. Roy will demonstrate his ability to look for more clues in combat against Hassaku, possibly dealing with field or weather issues. Dot will show her ability to dazzle and battle without overthinking, handling situations where things don't go her way and acting more on the fly.

i2i said:

Wouldn't adding Ann to the mix actually even things out.

It would, I'm just not seeing a narrative reason for them to do it.

As of yet.

Aoki appears, smokes Anne and that's just that....?

I just think the surprise is Aoki is too busy working right now so he's not present, because he's an overworked wage slave who also is forced to run a gym and maintain the Elite Four. Probably too busy doing some kid's terastal exam.

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Articfoxgamez

I Exist.
  • Thursday at 10:09 PM
  • #31

Kawaii Emolga said:

Wonder if Liko will get a win here, maybe unlikely, since it's a Elite Four member, but she's paired with a Gym leader so, who knows?
Also, PLEASE Floragato, learn a new move! And a move that isn't just "make a bigger quantity of leaves appear" again.

Assuming we want coverage (So not grass) and want it to do damage without weird requirements like fling the options are

Level Up:
Bite
U-Turn (Unlikely unless they plan to start using the secondary mons a lot more)
Slash (They rarely used scratch so this seems unlikely)
Play Rough

TM:
Take Down (Worse quick attack)
Mud Slap (Don't see it)
Low Kick (Kicking is Quaxly's shtick)
Acrobatics
Disarming Voice (Fuecoco took it)
Aerial Ace
Swift
Low Sweep (Again, Kicking is Quaxly's thing)
Shadow Claw
Thunder Punch
Tera Blast (Please don't)

Egg:
Sucker Punch

If you wanna include Grass moves that aren't leaf based then we've got

Seed Bomb
Energy Ball
Trailblaze (Too similar to quick attack in how the anime uses it IMO)
Bullet Seed
Grass Knot (Very specific use case)
Giga drain
Solar Beam (Recharge time doesnt fit Floragato)
Grassy Glide (Unlikely IMO)
And Grass Pledge (Also Unlikely IMO)

I was bored if you can't tell.

A

AzureMagix

Well-Known Member
  • Thursday at 10:16 PM
  • #32

wellwellwells said:

Taking a guess and predicting a third battle, all three kids vs. Larry.
Ideal scenario, they use Kilowattrel, Hattrem and Tinkatink for it.

Manifesting that.

MartínK

Well-Known Member
  • Thursday at 10:18 PM
  • #33

Kawaii Emolga said:

Wonder if Liko will get a win here, maybe unlikely, since it's a Elite Four member, but she's paired with a Gym leader so, who knows?
Also, PLEASE Floragato, learn a new move! And a move that isn't just "make a bigger quantity of leaves appear" again.

Seed Bomb is the best option and Floragato learns it very early in the games, and also another move to replace Scratch, maybe Acrobatics, Slash or Shadow Claw

A

AzureMagix

Well-Known Member
  • Thursday at 10:21 PM
  • #34

MartínK said:

Seed Bomb is the best option and Floragato learns it very early in the games, and also another move to replace Scratch, maybe Acrobatics, Slash or Shadow Claw

Sucker punch will be good for Flora, One its a priority move so it can attack before a Mon can use its move unless they are also using a priority move, 2, coverage so it wont be a sitting duck against types that resist grass.

MartínK

Well-Known Member
  • Thursday at 10:25 PM
  • #35

AzureMagix said:

Sucker punch will be good for Flora, One its a priority move so it can attack before a Mon can use its move unless they are also using a priority move, 2, coverage so it wont be a sitting duck against types that resist grass.

Sucker Punch (Also avoid "crossroad killing" for Meowscarada), Quick Attack, Magical Leaf and Seed Bomb, i like it.

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AzureMagix

Well-Known Member
  • Thursday at 11:00 PM
  • #36

MartínK said:

Sucker Punch (Also avoid "crossroad killing" for Meowscarada), Quick Attack, Magical Leaf and Seed Bomb, i like it.

ummm cross road killing? what did that come from?.

M

MunchMunch

Well-Known Member
  • Thursday at 11:01 PM
  • #37

AzureMagix said:

ummm cross road killing? what did that come from?.

Night Slash's Japanese name.

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AzureMagix

Well-Known Member
  • Thursday at 11:03 PM
  • #38

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Decidueye23

Well-Known Member
  • Thursday at 11:08 PM
  • #39

I do wonder if this is meant to conclude round 1 of the teresral exams. And maybe round 2 will have them feature the secondary mons. Right? Right???

Trey pokes

Well-Known Member
  • Thursday at 11:55 PM
  • #40

Decidueye23 said:

I do wonder if this is meant to conclude round 1 of the teresral exams. And maybe round 2 will have them feature the secondary mons. Right? Right???

It might. You never with this series.

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